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#1 amberjolie

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 09:06 PM

I've never worn makeup. But today I decided to try getting some sort of concealer for my eyes, to see what I can do with them. They have definitely changed over the past few years, and friends of ours are noticing them. Today my husband mentioned it, and our friend said that he had noticed them, but didn't want to say anything without knowing the situation.

So I bought concealer, some eye prep stuff that is supposed to help with puffiness, wrinkles, and so on, makeup remover, and white eyeliner, because I think part of the problem could be that my eyes are probably smaller than they used to be, with the tight skin around them, and white eyeliner might help them look bigger again.

Is anyone else trying to use makeup to at least cover what scleroderma has done, and what sorts of tricks do you have?

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:21 AM

Hi Amberjolie,

The good news for me is that Scleroderma hasn't made my eyes any smaller (or my mouth....that is a shame!! ;) )

The bad news is that because my skin hasn't tightened on my face, I've still got a jolly good set of wrinkles!! :P

I have a fairly good concealer which I use underneath my eyes and I always use a very thin line of eyeliner and mascara with a little bit of blusher and lipstick. At my age less is most definately more!!

The only physical change to my appearance caused indirectly by Scleroderma is that because I'm taking Prednisolone unfortunately I do seem to have developed the steroid 'moon' face. :(

Ah well, you can't have everything!! ;)

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:46 PM

Hi Amberjolie,

It's been a long time since I've posted, though I have been keeping up.

The skin on my face loosened again quite a few years ago now. Only my dentist can still notice a difference. And I'm getting saggy skin and wrinkles more or less on schedule. :(

When my skin was tight, what helped was slathering a thick layer of super-dry moisturizer (the thick solid stuff) over my face every night, including over my eyelids. Be sure that whatever you use is labeled as safe to use around your eyes.

I think I have smallish eyes, and always wear a thin line of dark eyeliner on both upper and lower lids, and also plenty of mascara. It makes my eyes look much bigger and bolder. Also, my lips are naturally thin, and glossy lipstick or gloss in a bright color makes them look fuller and balances my face.

Hope this helps!

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 01:37 AM

Hi Warmheart,

How lovely to hear from you again and I do hope that you're keeping as well as possible.

Do please keep posting and let us know how you're getting on.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:34 AM

:thank-you: Great tips, from ALL of you!
Since my face has changed so much, I no longer go to the lengths I did pre--Scleroderma. There was a time when I didn't even take out the trash without makeup! Of course, I DO line my lower eyelids and draw on eyebrows, due to the fact I inherited my dad's "few eyebrows", rather than my mom's great eyebrows. However, I'm a believer that if it makes a person FEEL better, then it's a great thing to do :terrific:
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:06 AM

Hi Amberjolie,

My makeup trick is to admit that its not a do-it-yourself project. I go to a makeup artist once a year, to learn how to put on my makeup, what new/different types or shades of makeup I should be using, and to learn tricks for dealing with various problem areas.

I finally settled on using just one makeup artist. There is no charge for an hour's worth of application (and learning) if I buy $50 worth of their (hypoallergenic) products. Many department stores also have makeup artists, some for free, some that charge or are free with a certain amount of purchase.

I have found that it is very important for me to have the right shade of concealer, foundation, and blush. Our skin can change from time to time, especially if we (or nature) change our hair color, or if our skin color changes by the seasons.

I am positive that my approach of seeking professional help for makeup has paid for itself, time and again, by just getting a few products that really work, rather than a whole drawer full of stuff that sits there, unused.

So, my makeup trick is that I seek (basically, free) professional help for it. Plus I use the time to ask a zillion questions, watching carefully how things are applied, and making sure I can do it myself. Buy the few pricey items that really matter (especially foundation) but get the usual (cheaper) stuff at the drugstore (such as mascara, and makeup brushes, for example) if you are on a budget.

Regardless of all the makeup tricks you will use (which should look very natural and shave years off your age, if done properly), remember to go to your doctor once a year without any makeup at all, and to never wear makeup to a dermatology appointment. That way they can see some of the things we may be hiding, such as pesky rashes, telangiectasia, smaller lips, possible skin cancers, and so forth.

Another thing to keep in mind is that we need to decide which looks better, or what we want people to focus on -- either our eyes or our lips. Pick your best feature of the two, and emphasize that while playing down the other. If you're going for eyes (or lips), GO for eyes (or lips). Invest the majority of your time, attention, and makeup products on your chosen best feature. And be sure share that feature you want to highlight with your makeup artist.

I usually go for lips, because mine are so thin, and I make them a lot better and bigger using all sorts of makeup tricks. However, when I focus on my eyes instead, I get a lot more compliments from people. The thing is, I find that a lot of eye makeup can be pesky with Sjogren's and dry eyes, etc. so I avoid eye makeup most of the time, especially if I'm not planning on going out that day.

Enjoy your new adventures into the land of makeup, but don't be overtaken by it. I painted my jewelry hangar to say, "The best jewelry of all is a smile." It doesn't matter how beautifully we're made up, if we forget to smile.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 01:39 PM

I use some camouflage makeup & then some mineral foundation & eyeshadow along with Mascara. I was given a lesson in using the camouflage makeup while sorting out the best colours for my skin and then I get this on prescription from my general practitioner. It does help to hide the telangiectasia and some large dark brown patches on my face. I tend to show my eyes off more because my lips are thin & my mouth is small & I still haven't found a lipstick that works for me.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:36 PM

I gave up on makeup. I have never liked foundation or lipstick but loved "painting" my eyes. I used water with my eyeshadows and would paint 3 colors on my lids, then would line the edges of the lids with colored liners and coat my blond lashes with colored mascara. Then along came scleroderma and dry eyes. Bye, bye contact lenses. Since I can't see without my glasses and had trouble holding brushes every effort made me look worse. Picture the little old lady with her eyebrows drawn on her forehead.

So now I wear colored feathers beaded into one side of my hair and have clip in colored hair extensions to match every outfit for the other. "Anything for attention" as my mother-in-law, a fellow sclerodermian, was famous for saying.

I think the most important thing is to do what makes you feel good about yourself at the level you can do it. When I was on dialysis that meant brushing my hair!

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:00 PM

I gave up on make up too, although I have got some light foundation for the odd occasion when I look in the mirror and get a shock!!

What I find helps is to keep my hair as nice as I can every day and keep my nails tidy. Hair is not so hard but nails are another thing as we all know, but a good beautician should be able to help you keep them as nice as they can be. I see my hands all the time so if they are too bad they drag me down.

I was home from hospital yesterday then today the only thing I have done is get myself to the hairdresser then to the Nail salon - now I feel better.

Now I need a sleep because I am exhausted but at least I know some parts of me look tidy.

Best wishes and warm hugs to you all
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 03:05 PM

I'll give up on make up when I'm dead! I love the stuff and always have although I don't wear it 7 days a week anymore just when I am going out or having special company. I put it on the night before if I have an early start because it takes me so long now what with sclerodactyly and smaller lips but I find putting it on therapeutic, I plug into my music and take my time. I refuse to give up my signature red lipstick so I have to build my top lip up with a lip pencil, lip brush and lipstick which is what takes the most time but I don't care!

I only use 2 brands of make up and my foundation, concealer and powder come from a top end brand. If you don't get your foundation, powder and concealer right you may as well give up and go home so it is important to seek professional advice on what colour to go for and it's also important to have the right equipment to put your foundation, concealer and powder on with. I recommend a concealer brush because you get better coverage and more control when applying it plus you use less product. For the concealer itself you want one that reflects light, if you get one that's to heavy it will just emphasis any wrinkles.

Like Judy my hair has to be looking good so when I am out without make up it draws the attention away from my face plus of course there's the issue of covering up the grey!

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:31 PM

I'm the make up queen. I don't even look at myself without it on LOL. Seriously it helps some, but not as much as it used to. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say a brand name of a concealer or not here so if you want to know what it is, send me a private message. It's actually a "highlighter" LOVE it, could not live without it. I was just telling my husband today, that I need an eye job. I look dead tired all the time. Ohhhhh right, that's right I AM dead tired all the time. :)
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#12 amberjolie

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:07 AM

The dermatologist where I went to get my skin biopsy has an esthetics/cosmetics centre. I think I'll get a consultation or two over there firstly to see if there are any procedures that can be done. I don't know what, however, or even if we can get certain procedures with scleroderma. But I'll see what they say.

Secondly, they have cosmetic consultation regarding some mineral makeup that by the sounds of it is geared toward people with medical conditions that need it to conceal, balance, and tone down whatever it is they have. My guess is the makeup is probably expensive, but I think I'll see what they say.

Today's a holiday where I am, so I'll call tomorrow to try to set something up.