Teeth And Healing
Posted 18 April 2007 - 02:39 AM
I have really noticed my teeth going down hill the last few years. I have to have another root canal and crown on Monday.
Posted 18 April 2007 - 03:30 AM
I'm so sorry you're having such teeth trouble! One of the lesser known things that happens with sclero is dental issues--something about the stuff that holds our teeth in becomes fibrotic and no longer working right. As if sclero sufferers didn't already have enough to worry about!!
I hope you start feeling better!
Posted 18 April 2007 - 04:13 AM
What a bummer! I am so sorry you are having to deal with these teeth issues. I am sure it must have been quite a shock to hear that your root canal hadn't healed properly when you weren't even experiencing any problems with it. I hope everything turns out just fine.
Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:45 AM
My eyes are dry too, but I blame it on contacts and high altitude.
Posted 18 April 2007 - 12:54 PM
Sorry you are having dental problems. This is a problem for those with sclero. Also make sure you are drinking a lot of fluids and keeping your mouth moist, that helps.
Posted 18 April 2007 - 03:16 PM
Posted 20 April 2007 - 07:11 AM
Barbara aka relicmom1
Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:32 PM
I sympathize as I am fighting the same battle you just fought with your teeth! I am at the stage where the dentist is trying all sorts of things to help me hang on to my teeth, but we've already lost the battle with some recently.
What sort of things did you try? Did you try any implants, as that's the next thing on the agenda for me with a top eye tooth which has to come out in 2 weeks! Ugh! It's at the stage now where I am wondering just where you give up!
I'm really resisting having any sort of plate, partial or denture, as my mouth has become so much smaller with the sclero. Food in it is bad enough, and I can't eat large mouthfuls. I can't imagine how it would feel to have a plate and food to manage at once! How did/do you manage with your dentures, or is your mouth still a good size?
I also have the dry mouth from Sjogren's, and I believe you do need saliva to help hold a plate or dentures in.
When I had a tooth out recently the dentist found I lost 3mm of jaw bone in the 3 months since, from where it came out. Lack of jawbone is a problem too with dentures, as my mother has this problem severely. The dentist also tells me that implants stop the jaw bone disappearing in the same way your own teeth do.
Anyway, I would be very interested to hear what lengths you went to to keep your teeth, when you decided enough was enough, and how you manage with your dentures?
Posted 21 April 2007 - 02:31 AM
If anyone has any experience with root canals, please let me know.
Posted 21 April 2007 - 02:40 AM
Barbara aka relicmom1
Posted 21 April 2007 - 07:10 AM
sorry to hear about all of the mouth pain you are going through!!! Just to add a few things, my mother has Sjogrens and her dry mouth is not the main symptom...but she does have lots of teeth issues. Her last root canal did not go well also and it lingered on for a really long time. she was swollen, bruised and in pain. It did finally heal, but she is also not on Cellcept. She continues to fight the battle with her teeth.
Posted 21 April 2007 - 11:14 AM
I have a very swollen face, but not really swollen near the tooth. Weird.
Posted 21 April 2007 - 09:26 PM
It doesn't sound like a picnic! I guess I'll just have to take it as it comes, though what that will be I'm not quite sure yet. I have lost 2 molars on the bottom at the back on each side. The last molar on the left side is due to let go very soon, due to lack of bone and gum support, though the tooth, although with a large filling, is basically OK.
The top molars are OK at present and long may that last. However, in December last and January I lost the two premolars at the top right side, just behind my eye tooth. Both these teeth had root canals, and as such were more brittle. However, my main trouble with tooth loss is due to the roots being reabsorbed just below the gumline. These two teeth had this happen and I crunched on something which made them shatter at that point! (It felt and sounded awful!)
The front premolar, next to my eye tooth, looked as though it would be suitable for a mini implant, as there wasn't enough bone for a full implant. However, once the socket had healed the dentist found I'd lost the extra 3mm of bone which I spoke of, and which made it unsuitable for any sort of implant.
He also found at the same time that the eye tooth next door, which a few months back had suffered the root resorption, had gotten even more and would fall out soon. So he preferred to take it out in a controlled fashion. When it first happened to this tooth he did a root canal to hopefully stop the process, as this can do it. He then peeled back my palate skin and filled the gap in the root. But it was not to be! So we're going to try a full implant for this tooth and hopefully it will work.
He has done a similar process with a front bottom tooth, and so far it's working. Plus a couple of other bottom teeth.
Anyway, he says he *may* be able to do a bridge for the 2 premolars which came out, after the full implant for the eye tooth has integrated. he would use this plus my 2 back molars to anchor the bridge.
Maybe I'll try a partial plate for these 2 behind the eye tooth, at least until the implant has healed. If I can't stand it, then I'll probably try the bridgework! There's just so many "if's" and "maybe's"!
Regarding lack of moisture for holding dentures or plates in.......... I have kidney failure with dialysis, and can't drink indiscriminately. Nor can I drink stuff with sodium in it, as diet soda often has, because I am on a low sodium diet!
Oh the stuff which sclero gives us all to cope with!!!
Jennifer, I have lost count of the number of root canals I have had, but I don't remember any giving me any trouble and most of them have been after I got sclero! I'm glad you're on antibiotics anyway!!
I've really written a book here, so sorry about that!
Posted 22 April 2007 - 02:06 AM
I am so sorry to hear of your teeth problems! What an absolute pain! I sure do hope the implant takes and holds for you and that then you can get that bridge. I am sure this whole thing is just so frustrating for you! It just seems as if it is not one thing it is another. You are in my thoughts.
Posted 22 April 2007 - 03:58 AM
Sherrill, please don't apologise--your information is always so thorough and educational. We appreciate every word you write.
Posted 22 April 2007 - 09:18 PM
You know Jefa, I start off with a message saying to myself, now this will be brief. But before I know it, it's anything but brief! I think to myself now this and that require more explanation, so there you are!
One thing I forgot to mention about my teeth...... the last 2 premolars I had out had to come out in bits. And the last part of the root was stuck so hard to my jawbone that one had to be drilled out right down to the bone! This one was done by a woman who did a great job, but she didn't have the "oomph" in her wrist to get my tooth out.
My usual dentist did the second one, which was a crowned tooth. He tried VERY hard to save it, but couldn't. But he found the same thing that the root didn't want to part company with me! However, he managed, and found that there was a small piece of jawbone attached to the bottom of the root when it came out! He explained that I had ankylosed roots, which means there is no connective tissue between them and the bone, so they're stuck really hard! Once again a product of autoimmune disease!
The dentist was so unhappy about having to take my tooth out that he refused to charge me! He hates taking teeth out as he prefers to save them if he can! He is a VERY nice guy, and you don't get many like him!
Needless to say I'm not looking forward to the eye tooth coming out if it has the same problem!
Posted 23 April 2007 - 12:28 AM
I hope your tooth heals and you can keep those teeth as long as you can. I lost almost all my bottom teeth two years ago and have a partial on the bottom. My teeth just loosened up where the connective tissue holds them below the gum and the dentist didn't even have to wobble them to come out. I did retain the back molars to hang on to and the partial works well. I take Evoxac for dry mouth and it really helps.
Sherrill, your teeth woes continue. I am so sorry. I had on of those tooth shattering in pieces when pulling to. It took forever to dig it out and the sound was awful. You have been through so much and I am glad you have your diet sodas back. I love my one a day. Susie54
Posted 23 April 2007 - 05:33 AM
Nope, I'm not on any meds. As of right now, I'm not "bad" enough to justify them...and I'm not complaining. I'm glad I'm not terribly sick! I go back to the dentist on the 17th of May, and we're supposed to talk more about what kinds of things I can do over the counter. Right now I use a dry mouth toothpaste and rinse.
Posted 23 April 2007 - 07:10 AM
Thanks and remember to always smile!