Should I Try The Cynergy For My Red Dots?
Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:08 AM
Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:27 AM
You can deprive the body but the soul needs chocolate
my HMO makes me wear a helmet...
Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:35 AM
If I had the money to gamble with it, I probably would, just because it's a little bothersome to have to be covering them up with makeup all the time. The thing is that sometimes telangiectasia caused by scleroderma are resistant to laser therapy, so they may return, or others may pop up.
As long as you have the money for it, and you don't set your hopes too high, what do you have to lose? The worst that could possibly happen, I'd think, would be that you'd end up with the same complexion you have now.
Please let us know if you have it, and whether (or how long) it lasts.
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:41 AM
I have seen some severe cases of telangiectasias. No way would makeup cover them up. You said at one time that makeup can cover yours. Why would you even want to take a chance of having scars or pits or some other form of discoloration on your skin that could be worse. I let a friend who was starting up her practice burn a couple of small moles off my legs with an acid type system. I now have black marks where those light bumps use to be. I wish I had kept the bumps that were flesh colored. That is the only experiment I have had. I don't even dye my hair or perm it. We are what we are. We need to be content within ourselves and make as much happiness and memories as we feel we need. You are a newlywed. You may feel you need to change your appearance to look better for your love. He married you for what you are inside and he new how you looked outside. Be happy with yourself. Don't try to change yourself, except to make yourself a stronger healthier person. Good luck in your decision. I hope whatever path you take it works out to make you a healthier person. What does your mom or sister say. They would be the ones to ask. Sheryl
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 12:50 PM
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 02:31 PM
Posted 10 July 2007 - 02:32 PM
Jackie, how long ago did you have laser? My Dr. said the lasers are much better these days so I was hoping this was going to be better than the last laser I tried.
I don't want to sound like "oh money is no object" because of course it is, but my husband and I both agree this is the best thing I can do for myself right now.
Sheryl, I do use Dermablend. It's very thick and it's the only thing that covers even a little but it's thick, greasy and rubs off. PLus, it just does not look natural. It covers enough to where I'm not so embarrassed to leave the house. I also go to the gym and it's gross to put on that much make up. I look made up and that's not me. I like the natural look and I absolutely hate putting makeup on everyday. I wish I could get to the place where I didn't care. I wish I could post a picture and get everyone's sympathy, ha ha! I am very pale and have these huge dots and everywhere. This morning I had to go to the grocery store and I actually went in with no make up and I look more sick than I feel.
Thank you for the encouragement!!! I do know that the people that love me don't care about my silly dots. My Mom and sister would tell me to do it. They know how bad it bothers me and know what I look like without the garb.
I thought about getting just one dot lasered but my problem with that is it takes at least 3 treatments and you have to wait a few weeks between each treatment. Sounds like a long couple of months. But, it is probably an option.
The Dr's nurse said the treatment will last, although new ones can happen..which I already knew.
Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:48 PM
Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:07 AM
Aww, thanks for understanding about me wanting to get lasered. I do feel silly, but I look so sick..and I am, but I don't feel sick.
When you say the capillaries come back, do you mean new ones in different spots or the same ones?
Posted 11 July 2007 - 05:16 AM
I don't have many on my face at all, but let me tell you when or if I get a lot, I'll be right behind you getting something done about it.
My advice to you is to spend some time thoroughly checking it out, including the doctor's credentials, how many he's done, ask to see pictures, see if he has the technology to put your face on a screen and show you what to expect when it's over, yada yada yada. Then if you feel comfortable with it, go for it!
Posted 11 July 2007 - 05:38 PM
most of the spots are on my cheeks and around my nose. some are small (pinpoint) and others are like broken capillaries. I don't have too many on my face, but many on my upper chest and a few on my hands. after laser therapy, the red spots fade out nicely over 1 week, and some never come back in the same spot. my chest is not as red even after 6 months when some come back
and my skin looks younger and less fragile. and it is so much fun to have a degree of power over this disease. score one point for ME! this disease isn't going to kick my rear end every day! janet
Posted 13 July 2007 - 09:20 AM
I haven't considered laser, but that's not to say I wouldn't at some point. You're right, it's much better these days, and you would certainly want someone that has been doing it for a while to ensure as much success as possible.
This is off the laser issue, but you mentioned Dermablend, and I was wondering about that. Is it only flesh toned or does it come in "color correctors," such as green for the red spots and yellow for purplish/blue marks? I'm learning to use a variety of makeup to cover the blotchiness and spots, and it's great to have an artistic background when doing that! The sides of my face, starting at the temple, curving around the bottom of the cheekbone and coming about halfway to my mouth, and my chin have red patches and a green coverstick helps tone down the redness. That way I don't need as much of the other goop all over my face so it never looks like plaster. Also, I never use just one color--I generally buy 2 or 3 and mix my own coverups or foundations. If you do, get the little sample sizes since it will be cheaper and you get the same amount as one bottle or stick.
For the areas of hypopigmentation and blotching, I use two eyeshadow palettes, one with pastels, one with earthtones, and lightly run a makeup brush (don't use the sponge applicator) over 5 or 6 colors (copper brown, medium brown, peach, dusky rose pink, and a very pale yellow) to fill in the light areas, and some are quite large on my forehead. It's best to apply this after using a setting powder, and of course I have to mix a couple of shades of these, too. It also helps overall with the blotchiness since imperfections can be seen through a flat, monochromatic powder, coverup, or foundation, and the blend of color on the brush carries light differently. The earth tones are matte, but the pastel yellow is slightly iridescent so it won't look flat on your skin. My skin is naturally fair, but has darkened on areas my face somewhat over the past few years, so I'm using my current skin color and matching my makeup to that instead of trying to lighten it all to my previous color.
If you decide not to pursue laser, it's amazing what you might find out after playing with makeup, and makeups that were intended for one thing work wonders for others! Yes, it does take longer, but I began to experiment because I really wanted to feel...I hate to say feminine because I feel just as feminine wearing ratty jeans and digging in the dirt, or playing with frogs and bugs without makeup on, but you know what I mean.
Best wishes to you on your decision!
Posted 13 July 2007 - 12:35 PM
I don't know how many different kinds of laser there are, but the type I had did not leave anything like a sunburned patch as some have mentioned. The doctor aims a pen-shaped device at the individual spots only.
It was necessary to make return visits a couple of weeks after for follow-up on areas that may not heve worked.
If I were you, I'd go for it.
Posted 13 July 2007 - 05:13 PM
The Dermablend comes in different shades, but from my recollection, not that many. I've not seen the entire line, but the one I use works. If I only had to use it temporarily it'd be fine, but not for the rest of my life. Elehos, I admire your dedication to your makeup. I love makeup...but I hate putting it on...LOL. I get tired getting ready to go out, then I don't want to leave the house.
I made my appointment to have the Cynergy laser. Apparently it's the latest and greatest laser for telangiectasias. I'll let you all know how the first treatment goes. My telangiectasias are anywhere from 3-5 millimeters, and all over my face. The Dr. may as well just do one huge laser zap on my face!
Thanks everyone for your advice and knowledge.
Posted 13 July 2007 - 06:59 PM
For what it's worth, if I were in your shoes I would do the same thing.