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#1 peanut

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 11:35 PM

Help!

It's 3 am I just woke up with what I think is burning stomach acid in my throat. I'm not sure what to do. This has happened before and all caused by the same food. It's one of hubby's favorite dishes but it's killer on my stomach and I'm definitely avoiding it in the future.

Before going to bed I took a generic Zantac then fell asleep flat, usually I can do that.

So here's what I've done so far: My doctor said I could take a Nexium in addition, which I did. I also at some Tums. To hopefully get rid of the ucky acid taste left I rinsed my throat out with baking soda or a crushed tums & warm water, I've heard it neutralizes acid. Hopefully that does the trick?!

If my babble makes any sense please post some imput.
My first note to myself is: Don't eat that food any more!

ugh,
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 07:45 AM

I have the same thing only it escalates to where it feels like I am being blow torched on the inside. It gets so bad I go into the ER and they fix up what they call a GI Cocktail which is 3 tsp of Lidocaine with Maalox and it coats the esophagus and the throat. I now have a prescription for the Lidocatine at home and make it here so I don't have to wail in pain for an hour at the ER which they go through the whole admit routine. If it continues I would ask your doctor about it as it is a life saver.

I also take the Nexium and we also elevated the head of our bed with wood by 7-8 inches which helps also.

I hope this is of some help. Take care and stay warm!

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 01:20 PM

Peanut,
I HATE nightime reflux. I think it's the worst!!! That's why now I try my best to stop eating at least 3 hours before bedtime. That usually does the trick (along with raised upper body and sleeping on the left side). But when I go to bed too early, I'm up later trying to stop the burning and stop the reflux. I do what you did at first by taking a tums, but I let it dissolve slowly in my mouth. Then I suck on hard candy until the burning stops and then some. Of course, all this is while sitting straight up in a chair. It usually takes a good hour, then another hour to get back to sleep. UGH! That GI cocktail of Peggy's sounds interesting.

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 04:05 PM

Yup Janey,
I was up last night for a while. I was kind of nervous. I didn't want to aggravate things. Today my throat is all scratchy from last night. My esophagus must hate me.

I want some of Peggy's cocktail :)

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 05:44 PM

Hi,

I do ok while I am sleeping, but sometimes I wake up with what I think is throw up in my mouth. Do you think I am refluxing at night? I rarely have burning pain since I take Prilosec twice a day... except the weird incidences of throw up.

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:29 PM

Denelle:if you should definitely take some action if you are waking up with vomit in your mouth sometimes - vomit could enter your lungs and cause pneumonia. If it were me I would consult my dr about it and also elevate the head of the bed ( if you don't already).

Peanut: I get the nasty nasty burning sometimes if I have been bad and had somthing spicy or acidic ( took me a while to realise that the vit C tablets I was taking were one culprit) but it can also be a problem if I am hungry.I'm on a PPI but when I get the reflux at night I also use a liquid antacid which is quite thick and soothes the oesophagus as well as the stomach and is easier than crushing tums. Also make myself some warm milk and honey, which helps with the acid and getting back to sleep.
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Posted 06 December 2007 - 02:40 AM

Lizzie,
My throat is just a tiny bit scratchy but I think I recovered from my cocktail for explosive heartburn disaster. Not only did I eat a fried bad trigger food, I ate vit C and ibuprofen - both can cause heartburn... and I fell asleep flat.

Hum I forgot about liquid antacids :)
But sadly can't do the milk idea...

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 04:34 AM

Denelle,
If you are waking up in the middle of the night with vomit in your mouth, then yes, you are experiencing reflux. I take two Prevacid a day, but PPIs aren't 100% at preventing reflux. You also need to apply some lifestyle changes like sleeping elevated and on your left side, stop eating at least two hours prior to laying down, and avoid acidic foods (and "fried food" - Peanut I can't resist those either). Just to name a few. Keep a journal at night of what you eat and when so you'll determine what is causing the reflux.

Please tell you doctor the next time you see him or her. Your doctor needs to be aware that this is happening, because prolong and untreated reflux can cause all sorts of problems.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 06:39 AM

Hi Guys,
I too take 2 Prevacid a day for the reflux, but it isn't holding me. I woke up the other night only to throw up over the side of the bed. What a joy. Thank goodness my husband was working night shift. My doctor has given me a whole slew of meds to take but not sure whether to start or not. I am now in the depression era of it all again, since I had been in remission for so long, now am hating it. Just tired. Can't eat, can't sleep, can't go to the bathroom one day, and can't stop the next, can't breathe, and yet the doctor says "oh,, your not too bad." Right?, does he live my life, NO.
sorry, didn't mean to go here.
anyway, nexium works good along with prevacid. also drink milk and eat yogurt. and yes, prop yourself up.
I hope that your day goes well and you don't have any worries.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 07:44 AM

Hi, I also have severe GERD and wake with a pain in my back and sometime choking. I can feel the soreness all the way down the esophagus. I take nexium before breakfast in the morning and that definitely helps but on nights when it is bad I chew 4 gaviscon with a little water before bed and this seems to help. It keeps the reflux down. I also have the head of my bed up 5 inches and keep a wedge on top of that. I was also taking a vitamin C with my iron at bedtime and I've cut that out and another thing that my druggist told me is not to drink milk. It promotes more acid, you would think the opposite.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 08:37 AM

That is interesting about the milk, Piper!
Here my mother drinks skim milk to "help with her ulcer"... plus eats oatmeal cookies beofre going to bed! :huh:

Peggy, it sounds like you and I are in the exact same boat... there are nights it feels like a drill is boring right through me... I break out in a sweat and it varies in length. Dr gave me a script for Reglan recently, but I haven't filled it.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 01:14 PM

I had another reflux attack last night which I think was from one piece of chocolate the size of my thumb at 8:00 at night! Anyway, without that GI Cocktail I would have had to go into the emergency room as the pain from the burning is so bad it's unbelievable.

I meet with my rheumatologist doctor on January 16th in the Cities and plan to ask her about why this is happening so much. I'm sure a visit to a gastro dr will be the next thing. I had an endoscopy done in October which showed the beginning signs of Barrett's syndrome so anyone who is having this problem needs to take it very, very seriously as it can lead to cancer of the esophagus I believe if it goes untreated.

Stay warm.

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 12:32 AM

SUZIE, You could fill the Reglan and only use it in the middle of the night when you get the severe pain. It works almost instantly. Much faster than a regular anticid. I am down to where I only take them one hour before I eat with my Nexium and one right before I go to bed. Or I wait and take it if I have a problem and I'm awakened in the night with pain. I use to take 4 Reglan a day and 4 Nexium a day. I can usually tell what will bother me and I'm learning what to stay away from. It you decide to fill the script let others know how it works for you. It was my last resort. I am happy that it works so well. Sheryl
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 06:03 AM

That's good news, Sheryl... thanks for letting me know.

I did take it years ago, but don't recall why I happened to stop.

Hope you're doing well.

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 02:30 AM

I too have frequent reflux, and have been on Reglan, Proplusid and Prevacid at one time. Now because of insurance not paying for the Prevacid, have been switched to Omeprazole which seems to be pretty good for me. I wake probably 1X a week with choking and burning. Sometimes I can go a couple weeks and not be bothered and then sometimes its a couple times a week. If I know I have had sometime that may bother me, I may take a big swig of Pepto or whatever I have on hand before bed. When it starts in the middle of the night, seems there is no fast way to calm it. Sometimes if it is too bad, I end of up just throwing up which helps, not intentionally, just happens because of all the coughing and gagging. Also for me sucking on a cough drop, if it hasn't reached the really bad stage, helps coat the "scratchy, burny" feeling. I remember waking even as a teen with this, though no one knew what it was, thought my sinuses were draining or something to that effect. If I have had a really bad spell, the next day I will have a loose cough, more so than usual and boy does a night like that wear ya out. Does anyone else have anything that works fast to cut the burn when it happens, besides the Lidocaine mix?

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 06:38 AM

Peggy,
yup. no foods like as fatty foods, spicy foods, chocolate, caffeine, onions, tomato sauce, carbonated beverages and mint. Alcohol, large meals, lying down soon after eating and cigarette smoking. Also certain medications, including sedatives, tranquilizers and calcium channel blockers for high blood pressure.

bummer.

I had a barium swallow test done about a year ago and wasn't diagnosed with GERD, but just reflux... anyone know what the difference is?

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 06:43 PM

Peanut,

Heartburn (reflux) is part of GERD. GERD is diagnosed when the heartburn causes damage to the esophagus. "The most common GERD symptom is chronic heartburn, but it's not the only symptom." WebMD Looks like I have heartburn and not GERD. I'm thrilled! Looking at the symptoms for GERD, heartburn is definitely something that we want to control.

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