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#1 georgette


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Posted 22 June 2008 - 03:12 AM

hi , I was told that the immune system does not get pumped around the body by the heart that it actually gets pumped around the body thru muscular movements eg walking exercise any physical activity , is this true ? the reason why I ask this is because I'm not sure if I'm imagining this next bit that I'm about to explain to you all , whenever I go shopping ,if I am in the shops too long and walking a lot first I start to get heat surges ,I feel very heavy in body and tired , then I get a sore throat ! this sore throat is just the same as when you first catch a virus ,I had often thought ,oh no I'm in for a cold ! but when I get home and rest it goes away , after I noticed this happening every time I physically over do it I decided to push thru the symptoms and just continue to do what ever it is I am doing ,once I get to sore throat stage and if I keep active , I then develop a hacking cough , a cough so nasty I can't inhale as I am coughing so much , once again when I rest it ALL goes away !!!!!!! has anyone else experienced this , ? when I learned this thing about the immune system being pumped around the body by movement I wondered if all this walking was speeding up an already over active immune system , hence the response and hence the reason why it goes away after a resting time ???? I will be interested to hear your replies hugs georgette

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 03:41 AM

georgette, you might want to talk to the doctor about this, I have not ever had this happen, When I was on predisone back in 2003 I was walking and my body felt heavy to walk, My legs were swollen like a man legs, but it eventually went away. sorry I can't help you. Sam

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 03:46 AM

Hi, Georgette. Good question.

I am not a doctor, though I have studied anatomy and physiology in the distant past. The immune system is complex and includes
  • Thymus
  • Spleen
  • Lymph system
  • Bone marrow
  • White blood cells
  • Antibodies
  • Complement system
  • Hormones
The best description I have found is in this article from the site
HowStuffWorks, How Your Immune System Works. It is several pages long but quite interesting and informative.

As for your question, yes I sometimes experience what you describe when I go out. I believe it is the fatigue element at work. I feel nausea, malaise and fatigue with any unusual exertion. I also seem to cough more when I am out and about and carry water and sweets to suck on in my bag.
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Posted 22 June 2008 - 08:41 AM

Hi Georgette

Since I have got sick in the early 90's I also get sore throats. I always associated them with my Fibromyalgia because I was diagnosed with it at that time although I had other symptoms which were not Fibromyalgia related. Every time I'm overtired, it kicks in and I get the chills. It used to come on so bad, I thought I had strep throat and was tested time and time again but the tests always came back as normal...as it turns out, I believe it is the scleroderma. Like yours, mine goes away once I have rested overnight. So I'm not certain which disease is really causing it...but I'm leaning towards the scleroderma. I'm going to ask my new doctor next week (if I remember to run and write this down, that is!)....oh, but I never get any coughing from it...and it's been happening to me for about 15 years now.
Sending good wishes your way!

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 12:25 PM

Hi Georgette,
Is it perhaps the air conditioning or heating in the shops? Could be dust as well and fibers from clothing, carpet etc. My lungs are very sensitive to all that and I do also get the dry throat and coughing. Even in the car sometimes. With sclero often comes a dryness of the mucous membranes which would make us more susceptible to those nasty allergens etc in the air. One more bit of ugliness to deal with. Sorry for your problems, hope you find relief. Love, Mary in Philly
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Posted 22 June 2008 - 05:16 PM

Hi Georgette

I've been getting similar symptoms like you described.I haven't been diagnosed with diffuse systemic sclerois,but certainly suspect it.Everytime I go out and walk a bit like going to the store or exert myself physically in any way I feel like as if my body is attacking itself.It feels like a systemic process of some sort.I pretty sure its the immune system overreacting.

During the attack I begin to get a sharp pain in my throat.Then I start to get chills in my entire body like as if my entire body is aching.I suddently get tired and weak at the same time.Then I get this sweaty drenched feeling in my body.It usually starts to feel moist around the tendinous sheaths of both elbows and behind the knees.Its kind of like the sweaty feeling after working out in the gym.Then my palms and feet start to ache.However,they often ache at rest.I can see the palms turning extremely red for some strange reason during the attack.Sometimes I get a sharp burning pain under my armpits at the same time.Kind of like around the ribs on both lateral sides of my body.

As soon as I sit down and rest I feel like as if I ran a marathon.The pain in the throat,hands, feet and ribs subside,but now are starting to appear frequently at rest.
I also get alot of burning pain in the eyes.Not during the attack,but frequently at rest.I don't think its part of sjorjens syndrome because my eyes don't feel dry.

The symptoms are worse when I do something physically.If I'm walking my feet begin to ache as if I was walking on stones.I wear sandals and slippers now whenever I walk to help relieve the pain.If I holding an object for a long time my palms remain red from the pressure of holding an object and begin to ache.Such as holding the steering wheel while driving.Also,when I rest my fingers after typing on the keyboard my fingers and palms begin to ache and stiffen up.They become shiny and waxy as if they were sweating,especially during the night.I constantly have to straighten my fingers outward because they feel like they're curling inwards at times.

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 11:14 PM

Hi Georgette,
I notice a sore throat when I am very tired at the end of a day, especially if I have not slept well the night before, the next morning after a nights sleep it disappears. I can also cough when laughing or if I over exert myself.

Hope this helps some