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#1 Kamlesh

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 08:19 AM

All,

I am goinng thought heavy sleep disorder. After, several medications, my doctor prescribed Ambien CR. It seems to be working OK, except I struggle to sleep . After tossing and turning for couple of hours, I get sleep. I do not hear my morning alarms and sleep past 8 AM. Feel heavinesss in brain whole day.

What do you guys do for sleep disorder?
Any suggestions?
I am on medication for about a week and will it improve with time?

Kamlesh
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 12:15 PM

Kamlesh,

You just described one of my biggest problems. I lay there for hours tossing and turning. I've tried it all and then I get myself so worked up that I think I psych myself out and then really can't sleep. I've tried it all from natural to prescription drugs and it just comes and goes for me. I've just learn to deal with the sleep deprivation.

Hope your meds continue to help you.
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Posted 06 January 2007 - 03:08 PM

Hi Kamlesh,

I wish there were an easy answer, but I've had a serious sleep disorder since 1972 and have simply learned to live with it in many ways. You're right about sleep aids causing a heaviness in the brain, and on the few occasions I've used them I had to take them several hours before my normal bedtime so it wasn't quite as bad when the alarm went off. There was no way to use them for an extended period of time, or even on a nightly basis due to the side effects, so I've tried other things on and off. There is a "home remedy" that I can send you in a private message, but need to mention a few things before sending it to you; if you have any blood disorders, such as blood clotting or not clotting normally, bruising easily, chronic anemia, or if you are on any meds for a blood condition, this isn't for you. If you aren't sure, please check with your doctor first. I'm so sorry that you also can't sleep, and hope there's a med or even a home remedy that can work for you!

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 04:41 PM

Elehos,

Thank you for your response. Can you please email the home remedy?

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Kamlesh Kamdar
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Posted 06 January 2007 - 06:46 PM

Hi Kamlesh,
I had a sleep study done and now use a CPAP machine at night. I believe that it really helps me although you would think the opposite having to have some weird contraption over your nose all night! It forces me to breathe through my nose and not my mouth....and it keeps me from waking up all night ...I still wake up maybe twice but not every hour like before. My pulmonary doctor ordered the test (hes also my primary care physician). You might ask your MD what he/she thinks about it.
I hope you get some rest!
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Posted 07 January 2007 - 04:05 AM

Hi Kamlesh,

You may want to consider having a sleep study done. There are many types of sleep disorders and if you have sleep apnea, treatment for insomnia will only make it worse.

I have severe insomnia with alpha-wave intrusions; my husband has sleep apnea. We have entirely different treatments. It has helped me a lot to use full spectrum light therapy, which I started for psoriasis but found it was helpful for my sleep as well. Used properly and diligently, it can regulate the circadian rhythms and the whole sleep/wake cycle. I simply use full spectrum (therapy level) lamps (not the light boxes that you stare at, I could never do that) for my work and hobby areas, which are dimmable and like an ordinary desk lamp.

My husband simply enjoys having the true light around (it is better to read by and easier on the eyes) -- but it would do absolutely nothing for his sort of sleep disorder; he has to use a CPAP machine. So the real key to treating a sleep disorder is to be sure of exactly what is causing it before launching a treatment program.

Sometimes depression can cause sleep disorders -- but sometimes sleep disorders can cause depression, too. See our page, Sleep and Autoimmunity.

Ask your pharmacist when you should take the med -- many of them are to be taken a few hours before bedtime, and then you can sleep through most of the hangover effect. Also ask if you can reduce the dose for a few weeks while your body learns how to adapt to the medication. And do look into sleep disorders testing, especially if you have any other symptoms like snoring or significant pauses in your breathing at night (which are possibly indicative of sleep apnea, which will not respond well to sleeping medications.)
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Posted 07 January 2007 - 04:50 AM

Hi Kamlesh,
I too have difficulty sleeping. It has been about 10 years now since it started. My dr suggested ambien and it worked great but I did have that brain fog. Now I make sure I take it atleast an hour to an hour and a half before I want to go to sleep. I also find taking it on an empty stomach helps alot...it seems to kick in faster. After a while I found the Ambien to working great but I still had the brain fog the next day. So I found a routine, taking it early and on an empty stomach and now I only take half a pill and it works great for me.

I hope you find something that works for you!

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#8 Kamlesh

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 07:04 AM

Lisa and others,

Thanks!

Does brain fog goes away with time?
I take AmbienCR at about 8 PM and sleep by 10. Try to wake up by 6, but heavinesss in my brain makes it difficult to wake up before 8. Right, now I can manage it, but it may not too longer.

If the effect won't go over with time then I have no choice to stop Ambien and look for alternative.

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Kamlesh
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 08:15 AM

Hi all,
I was on AmbienCR. I took it for a while and always felt like I was hung-over or heavy the next day. It was weird but I wasn’t getting good sleep/REM sleep and eventually I was zombie - awake but completely exhausted.

I now take OTC melatonin 2-3mg. I have no problems falling asleep in an hour or so and it doesn’t seem to have any drug interactions although I have suddenly started snoring.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 08:32 AM

Peanut do you stay asleep all night?
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 08:40 AM

Sweet,
I do. If I'm not careful I sleep 12-14 hours.
My problem is going to sleep. Once I'm asleep I can sleep forever. Melatonin may or may not help those who cannot stay asleep.

I've read that some brands are more effective than others. If you want the kind I use PM me.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 12:55 PM

Hi Kamlesh,

Did you get the private message I sent?

Best wishes,
Elehos

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:42 PM

Kamlesh:
I feel your pain. I have struggled with sleep problems for many, many years. I can sometimes go to sleep, but can't stay asleep. My doctor has tried me on every sleep med on the market. None of them have really helped. Hopefully you will found one that works for you. You may have to try several. There is a new one, Rozerem, that doesn't have a lot of side affectss or cause morning brain fog. It is also non-addictive. I have taken it and it has helped somewhat, actually more than of the other more intense meds.

Best of Luck,
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 04:33 PM

I use 30 mg. of amitriptyline each night. It helps pretty much.
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 05:27 PM

Kamlesh,
I have taken Ambien and it also caused me to feel hungover or foggy the following morning. Now I break the pills in half and they work pretty well. I think that would make the dosage about 5 mg. Sometimes I try to break them unevenly so that I wind up taking about 2/3 and that works best for me.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:44 AM

hi kamlesh,
I go to bed and fall asleep no problem but I find staying asleep is a no go, this has been for ever (well seems like it) but when I eventully fall asleep im then woken bye the alarm I need to get the kids to school, but I also sleep dueing the day not coz I wanner just coz by about 11 im that lethargic im totally sombiefied the itching I have at the moment dont help me either, im used to it and can live with it no problem hope u find a solution soon jaxsx
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