nickisboi25

Cover-up consultation...any advice?

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I recently had a neck surgery so there is still a fresh (red) scar at the base of my neck, even though they used plastic surgery techniques with it. It is softened, almost to the point of being invisible, by a powder foundation.

 

The trick is that the powder has to very closely resemble the skin in the area where you'll use it (not the skin on your face or hand, for instance, if the color is different), and that it has to be put on in three or four layers, with a moisturizer first of all. The moisturizer helps it "hold" the excess layers and helps to prevent it from wearing off or "snowing" onto clothing. The same technique works for hiding face rashes, telangiectasia, etc. I just use more layers on the problem spots (not all over).

 

My makeup technician said that I need to use concealer over my entire face (I tried not to cry when she said that!) but I find that takes too long and it looks a lot more artificial than layering the powder foundation. I don't have morphea on my face though, so I wouldn't know what techniques would really work for it.

 

However, there is the age old beauty trick of distraction, distraction, distraction which I used to good effect when I had a nasty mole-type growth on the end of my nose. Make any other spot in the area a lot more dramatic. For example, lots of eye shadow, or a bright lipstick (just not both together), a fancy hat or pin in the hair; absolutely anything at all that draws the eye towards what you want people to notice which automatically draws their eye away. When I exclaimed that I was so happy that I finally had the Nose Thing removed, one of my friends said that seriously, she hadn't even noticed it. Now, she could have been a good friend and didn't want to tell me, or seriously, the distraction may have worked its charm.

 

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Warm Hugs,

 

Shelley Ensz

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Hi All!

 

Thank you Joelf for the kind words, onwards and upwards indeed!

 

Amanda I completely agree with you that progress is never a straight line and there will no doubt be bumps in the road and steps back. As long as I ultimately progress forward, I'm more than happy to take the bad with the good.

 

Shelley distraction is a really good way of handling the things we aren't so keen on. My friends always tell me confidence and the way I view my Morphea is ultimately what will determine how other people view it. Another age old trick, "If I don't mind, they won't either". While this isn't always true, I'm starting to believe what my friends have been telling me for ages. The way I carry myself and the respect I give myself are fundamental parts of how I can live with my Morphea. I've taken your advice to hand and I'm indulging myself with patience. Patience to learn to love myself for who I am and patience to claim back the happiness, confidence and peace I deserve.

 

The makeup I used was very thick in texture and can stay on for up to 4 days. The setting powder really worked well and no residue was left on my clothes. Its basically a case of finding your color match (you can mix colors to achieve a good match), letting it heat up on the back of your hand and then applying it to the area. A little goes a long way and subtle blending with your finger helps the result. As Shelley mentioned, its a case of layering it until your happy with it. The setting powder only takes a few minutes to dry and you're done! Bet you've never met a boy who knows so much about makeup lol I'd definitely recommend finding your local camouflage makeup service and seeing whats on offer. I'm still in two minds about how I feel "covering up" but it's always productive to explore all the options available to us.

 

Hope this helped, any questions please just ask ;)

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Nickisboi, what category is your makeup, for example, is it marketed as corrective cosmetics, stage makeup, a regular makeup heavily applied, or what? It sounds like stage makeup since it stays on nearly forever. In other words, what channels do people need to go through in order to obtain it?

 

Although we can't do brand names on the forums, people may always send you a PM to ask for the specific brand name. What I'm after is the general category, or type, of makeup that you are using.


Warm Hugs,

 

Shelley Ensz

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Hotline and Donations: 1-800-564-7099

 

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The only other man I know with scleroderma has telangiectasia all over his face and last time I saw him he had used make up to cover it up, the give away for him was lack of full cover, some areas of au natural peaked through and the shade was not quite right BUT the coverage was amazing. All it needs is some tweaking.

 

Take care.


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Hi Shelley,

 

Its classed as camouflage makeup but made by a company that makes all types of "professional" makeup, so basically as you said the kind of makeup used for stage/films. That could be the reason it stays on so well if they've essentially used the same methods as their mainline professional makeup.

 

I obtained mine through a doctor's referral to an organization that does, amongst other things, camouflage makeup consultations (I don't know if I'm allowed to mention the organization's name?). I'm more than happy to provide the names of the brand used to anyone who sends me a PM.

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I didn't use it on my face but seeing as people are always advised to take makeup off before they go to sleep, you all might have a point. The skin on our faces is the most sensitive, most probably because it's constantly exposed to the elements.

 

As to where to get hold of it, I only know that information for the UK (specifically London) sorry. I believe Shelley even posted a link to this site's camouflage makeup information on this thread, a couple posts back.

 

Hope this helped a bit; sorry I couldn't do more. One last bit of advice is when you get to experience the makeup, do it with an open mind. Based on my personal experience it's really good but not perfect. I definitely think it's a good choice you're making to explore the makeup option and I hope you get to try it out soon :) any other questions, just ask.

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Hi all!

 

Those of you following my posts will be aware I'm in counselling for some personal issues but that's coming to an end in early December. I recently went for a camouflage makeup consultation and while there I found out the same organization offers one to one counselling to. Got my follow up phone-call today and my assessment is on November 27th. As a self confessed therapy junkie this is really exciting!

 

Talking to a stranger about your problems can be daunting but it's done me the world of good. These sessions are more closely targeted to how my Morphea impacts my life. I think counselling is such a valuable avenue that should be explored by many. As a lot of you know Scleroderma can be psychologically challenging as well as physically. So far I've been extremely fortunate with the physical side of things but believe me I've had my fair share of emotional upset.

 

I might not have the years, life experience or Scleroderma experience for that matter as most of you but I know what it's like to feel like I've been beaten down by this disease. If this is my way of helping someone else I'll take it. Any counselling queries or questions about how it works (don't believe the movies, there's no white couch) please just ask.

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Hi Nickisboi,

 

Congratulations on finding an additional counselling resource, and taking advantage of it. Just about every time I've been faced with something major I've turned to counselling for help in understanding and overcoming it, as well as to support groups.

 

Another resource I like to turn to is the local library. During a divorce I went straight to the library and got an armload of books on how to make household repairs. Nothing was even broken in the house, but it still made me feel a million times better to be prepared for it anyway.

 

Self-insight and knowledge are great tools to help us eventually be able to also reach out to others and try to make the world a better place.

 

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Warm Hugs,

 

Shelley Ensz

Founder and President

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Hotline and Donations: 1-800-564-7099

 

The most important thing in the world to know about scleroderma is sclero.org.

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Having oily skin most my life powder didn't work well for me but as I am older and going through the change now, I camoflage then I cake on the powder and it works!! It even works on my decollete for striations and spider veins for pictures! I hope you might have good luck with it too.


Diffuse Scleroderma Diagnosed March 2009

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Hi all,

 

Sorry for the late reply. Been going through a rough patch recently but I'm back ;) Shelley trust me, that guy sat on the floor surrounded by books in the 'Body and Mind' section of the library...that's me! Might just go do that again soon, it's been a while. Montreal, I loved your story. That's the definition of taking ownership. That's one of my long term goals, to own my Morphea. To just be like, okay this is my thing, how do I own it and not let it own or define me. Thanks for sharing.

 

Counselling assessment is tomorrow! Really excited. Like everything in life that's worth anything, it's uncomfortable to start but once I get going I know I'm going to love it.

 

Just a totally random question I'm gonna throw out here. If Morphea is down to over production of collagen, does that mean I have more collagen than the average person or just on my Morphea patches?

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Hi Nickisboi,

 

I hope that your counselling assessment went well yesterday. :)

 

Certainly one of the features of Scleroderma is the over production of collagen; in my case it's primarily in my lungs, but because my joints are also affected, I would hazard that there is an over production there as well which causes inflammation in the connective tissues.

 

I've included a couple of interesting links on Update on morphea: part I. Epidemiology, clinical presentation, and pathogenesis and Morphea which I hope will give you some more information.

 

Kind regards,


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Hi Nickisboi,

 

I am so happy to hear you are making progress! Please continue to update us.

 

Funny, just the other day I was looking in the mirror at all the lines on my face from scleroderma, sun exposure and aging and thought that maybe I should go through with one of the procedures my doctors have suggested, even though they could be risky to my beautiful transplanted kidney and then thought, no, this is who I am. When I smile the lines aren't quite as noticeable so I smile a lot, and often get rewarded with a smile back in exchange. :D

 

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Hi Miocean,

 

You bring up a very important point, which is to smile. If we are not smiling and gracious to others, it doesn't matter if we have thousands of dollars of plastic surgery, the best wardrobe in the world, and no illness or disfigurement of any sort. So we should never get so distracted, dealing with the challenges of illness and life, that we forget to haul forth the greatest beauty asset of all time: our smile.

 

It's also been proven in studies that the mere act of smiling, even if we don't feel down, makes us feel better! What a win-win for all of us!

 

:yes:


Warm Hugs,

 

Shelley Ensz

Founder and President

International Scleroderma Network (ISN)

Hotline and Donations: 1-800-564-7099

 

The most important thing in the world to know about scleroderma is sclero.org.

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Hi all,

 

Thank you for your replies ;) The assessment went really well and I'm starting some work with them in January. New year, new start!

 

Joelf, thank you for the links. I will definitely check them out.

 

Miocean, I love that feeling of "this is who I am". That's definitely what I'm working towards.

 

Shelley, I couldn't agree more. The best accessory is indeed a smile. Shame I'm so self conscious of my teeth, but that's another story! Some dental work will be my birthday present to myself next year :)

 

I've also been fortunate enough to be given a place on a heavily subsidized exercise scheme with free personal training sessions. Going for my induction at the gym tomorrow. Getting changed and showing my Morphea to the world...another challenge I'm determined to rise to. Forget fear, it's my time now!

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